Comments on: The Cost To Prove Your Ethnicity And Heritage: Hawaiian Edition https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/ Slicing Through Money's Mysteries Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:06:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Financial Samurai https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603524 Wed, 15 Oct 2025 17:54:23 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603524 In reply to KaRo.

It is sad, but it is the reality we face. And if we are going to be good parents who provide our children with opportunities, we must think about how the world is for their future.

For a better life, we must always try to think in two timelines: the present and the future.

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By: KaRo https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603511 Tue, 14 Oct 2025 21:35:46 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603511 It’s deeply saddening to me that this requirement to document “race” still exists at all. Race is not a biologically real thing. While it exists for social reasons only, its not a biologically real thing and the fact that society continues to harper on it — and that school systems even continue to require such documentation — is indicative of continuing inequality and bias against anyone whose skin or face, etc., does not look a certain way. Instead, why not document something more tangible and real (income, ability to speak another language, etc.) if you’re trying to capture a certain subset of society that is less empowered than others.

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By: Terry Zink https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603498 Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:41:06 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603498 In reply to Financial Samurai.

I am immigrant (naturalized citizen) to the US (from Canada) and acquired US citizenship, and I knew that I had ancestors from Poland. I thought it would be advantageous to get my Polish citizenship, since it’s part of the EU. That would grant me the right to work and live in the EU if I ever so desired (up till now, I haven’t desired but who knows, maybe one day?).

I didn’t think I was eligible for German citizenship through descent because Germany’s rules for that are far more arcane than Poland. But I inquired with a law firm, and apparently the rules changed so I jumped on it.

So why go through getting citizenship of another country (my fourth) if being part of Poland already gives me what I want (EU citizenship)? Well, a few reasons:

[1] In case the EU breaks apart or shrinks, Germany is probably going to be part of whatever replaces it.

[2] My family identifies more strongly with German ancestry than Polish (all my elder relatives speak German) and I wanted to reclaim that side of my ancestry.

[3] Finally, this is more personal/political, and will likely result in a few downranks of this comment. But whatever.

There is a large contingent of people in the US that will claim you’re not really “one of us” unless your ancestry comes from certain geographical areas of Europe, primarily western Europe – including Germany. The “us-ness” of what it means to be an American citizen is not creedal (believing in the values of the US, coming here legally, living here for many years, swearing an oath of allegiance, undergoing the citizenship test/process) but is also (or especially) where do you come from?

Well, as someone who has those very roots to prove the “us-ness” demanded by some influential views held by some in the US, and has gone through significant financial, time, and logistical obstacles to prove it (i.e., it’s not just a claim, I am bringing receipts), I repudiate that point of view in favor of the more broad category of “Who can be an American?” in that it is creedal, allegiance-based, immigrant-based, etc. My proving my heritage while simultaneously repudiating a view I strongly disagree with is my way of expressing voice.

That’s why I went through all the work to prove my ancestry.

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By: Financial Samurai https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603495 Mon, 13 Oct 2025 18:22:19 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603495 In reply to tzink7.

Wow! Brutal! Thanks for sharing. May I ask what were the reasons why you had to prove your Polish and German ancestry? What are some of the benefit benefits? Thx

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By: tzink7 https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603481 Mon, 13 Oct 2025 02:36:51 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603481 I’ve proved my ethnicity twice – once for Polish heritage, which took me a couple of months to collect all the necessary documentation. I then had to drive to an embassy in another city to get a bunch of docs notarized, and then finally sent them in to the Polish citizenship office to get my Polish citizenship. I worked through a law firm to do this, and the process took ~10 or 11 months and cost around $1300 at the time ($1800 in today’s dollars).

The second time is proving my German heritage. That one is still in-progress, it’s already taken 2 years (7 months to collect the necessary documentation, and 17 months and counting after I submitted my application). I once again had to go to a German embassy in another city to get documents notarized. That one has cost way more, probably closer to $7500.

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By: Lenny https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603477 Sun, 12 Oct 2025 18:02:44 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603477 So only people with Hawaiian ancestry have the ability to apply to Kamehameha schools? I’m wondering how that’s legal. Imagine if the rule said white, black, etc.

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By: Financial Samurai https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-cost-to-prove-your-ethnicity-and-heritage-hawaiian-edition/#comment-603471 Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:37:37 +0000 https://www.financialsamurai.com/?p=285123#comment-603471 In reply to Karen.

Very good perspective! It never occurred to me people would try to scam the system to claim they are Hawaiian. However, how would they do so?

My grandmother had to fight to get Hawaiian put on her birth certificate through a lawyer, and in the 100+ year old records book, I saw the amendment. But instead of getting a lawyer and spending all that time for amending my dad’s birth certificate, I was pleased to have made them amend his Ethnicity permanently to Chinese-Hawaiian while I was there based on my grandmother’s record.

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